not online

Once again I am not doing what I hoped to be spending today doing, attending a Tolkien Society online seminar. You know, I attend Zoom meetings all the time and they work fine, just not the second and now the third Tolkien Society seminar. (Oxonmoot didn't do this, nor did the first seminar last February.) When I try to join in, I get plunged into a welter of sign-ins, log-ins, pop-up windows, and new browser windows I never asked for, and I never get to the seminar. The passcode they provide doesn't work; the webinar ID they provide doesn't work; I've tried all the useless suggestions they gave when I asked for help last time, and I'm not going to insult my intelligence by asking again. Feh, this is disgusting.